NasaJPL MSL Chatlog 4/oct/2012
NasaJPL MSL Curiosity Mars Science Laboratoy Ustream Chatlog 4/oct/2012
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20:05 NASAJPL: Hi everyone!
20:05 NASAJPL: Welcom to today’s Mars Curiosity news telecon. We’ll get started in just a few minutes
20:06 NASAJPL: Where’s everyone joining u from today?
20:06 NASAJPL: *us from today
20:06 brandnewswagg: florida
20:06 Joi_the_Artist: La Mirada, CA!
20:06 pcoventry: A town called Cardiff in the UK
20:06 xkrchnav: Czech republic
20:06 NASAJPL: Hiya, Joi😀
20:06 WimVO: Hello awesome people. Here are the results of the Flemish vote🙂
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20:07 s3bpilot: Hi from Canada
20:07 KATROBISON: Pittsburgh🙂
20:07 NullModel: U. C. Santa Cruz
20:07 brandnewswagg: i always wanted to go to canada
20:07 wcgreen123: Jacksonville, FL
20:07 powerisx: hi from Lithuania
20:07 NASAJPL: Welcome everyone!
20:07 ronusa: hi from Milwaukee
20:07 manalokos: Portugal!
20:07 Prophecy77: Hi from Budapest, Hungary
20:08 edwardrooks1: San Jose, California
20:08 irish_ciaran: Ireland here
20:08 pcoventry: I’m kicking back sat on Curiosity drinking some herbal tea while she carries me along. It’s cool but it’s a bit col at -75 at the mo😦
20:08 chardo137: Central Orogon, Darkest Skies in the Continental U.S.
20:09 anime_lover_91: Hello from Cuyahoga Falls, OH
20:09 WimVO: Telecon materials can be found here: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/msl/telecon/index.html
20:09 joseshuafina: come on
20:09 NASAJPL: Thanks for sharing, Wim.
20:10 YazidX: Hello from Arabia
20:10 idapoutiainen: hi from finland
20:10 SpaceWebpuro: Saludos desde Colombia!!
20:10 NASAJPL: We’re going to put the chat on pause during the first part of the telecon so everyone can listen.
20:10 brie987: Brooklyn NYC !!!!
20:10 DjAlex27: Hello From Bucharest Romania !
20:10 NASAJPL: I’ll open it back up during the Q&A for questions
20:11 nasajpl2: don’t worry about going to the webpage just mentioned, you’ll see all the visuals here.
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20:11 NASAJPL: Speaking now is Michael Watkins, Curiosity mission manager
20:14 ktraphagen: Thx NASAJPL for getting the images up for us to see
20:16 NASAJPL: Speaking now is Daniel Limonadi, Curiosity surface sampling phase lead
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20:22 WimVO: That would be a ‘Marstini’ mixer right there🙂
????? er: What is the expectation for what this material might consist of?
20:23 Jumpjack2: What can the analysis system detect? What would it see if an Eafrth at came into the sample, for example?
20:23 KATROBISON: Dear Curiosyt, can you mix me a MARStini? Shaken, not stirred? Strong enough to last the journey back to earth?
20:24 carigis: anyone else having audio issues with this telecon?
20:24 NASAJPL: No audio issues here
20:24 RomeRover: @carigis: not at all, quite good actually
20:24 nasajpl2: The mineral analysis of the sample will help reveal past environmental conditions; chemical analysis can check for ingredients necessary for life.
20:25 SGSea: I can’t hear a thing and I have my volume all the way up. I consider that a problem…
20:25 Shannon_lgrizzly: I missed it. What was causing the excess sand to fall out of the scoop before closing?
20:25 WimVO: Trying to find the size of Phoenix’s scoop. It looked larger than 4x7cm in my opinion. Anyone having the figure of that ?
20:25 manalokos: vibration
20:25 nasajpl2: only a very small sample size will be ingested by the instruments, that’s one reason we let the excess fall out.
20:25 Jumpjack2: What can the analysis system detect? What would it see if an Earth ant came into the sample, for example?
20:25 NASAJPL: Vibration helps move the sample material
20:26 ilovezamir: wow good pic
20:26 nasajpl2: SGSea the audio is perfect here. Check the audio button under the Ustream video screen.
20:26 Ultra_and_Violet-1: is martian sand like earth sand?
20:26 AC_Koala: Audio is clear as day, I agree.
20:26 RomeRover: @WinVO: 1.5″x2.75″ is a pretty small scoop; the picture “looks” larger but I expect that measurement is accurate.
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20:26 Shannon_lgrizzly: If it didn’t know better, that sand looks wet! Of course I don’t know any better haha
20:26 carigis: cutting out for me..gonna try a different browser thanks
20:26 SGSea: I did, it’s my laptop I think😦 lamesauce laptop
20:27 cleopatra0300: que es eso ?
20:27 saadcaffeine: scoops for sandblasting with vibration, what happens if the scoop also picks up tiny rocks? the scoop filters?
20:27 ilovezamir: show us more pictures plz!
20:27 TechnoTrousers: I’d like to know how the “unavoidable oily film” gets inside the scoop instrument on Earth.
20:28 hhall1089: *7
20:28 AC_Koala: Hi I don’t have audio, but wondering if we’re expecting to see any bacteria?
20:28 ch1le: oh dear, some of these questions….
20:28 NASAJPL: ilovezmir – all raw images(15,000+ so far!) can be found here: http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/raw/
20:28 RomeRover: Also would like to know what that oily film consists of? And what are we depositing on the surface of Mars then?
20:28 rucafiorio: human dandruff mainly🙂
20:29 Shannon_lgrizzly: I also wonder about this “film”. I am involved with UV lasers and I assure you there is no “film” left inside when we clean them. organics would be horrible.
20:29 jackspaceuk: I find all of this very interesting and exciting,what are good subjects to study (high school and university) so that I could get into this field of work?🙂
20:29 hhall1089: *7
20:29 ilovezamir: Great photos!
20:29 NASAJPL: The oily film was unavoidable here on Earth. That’s why they will do a few sample scoops to clean out the system
20:29 nasajpl2: We don’t expect to see bacteria. We’ll do chemical and mineral analysis of the sample.
20:29 Ultra_and_Violet-1: study rocks jack
20:30 hhall1089: *7
20:30 TechnoTrousers: Is that film a remant of the manufacturing process, or somehow acquired from the earth atmosphere?
20:31 AC_Koala: I suppose bacteria=life and that would be a whole new level of insane news. Thanks for the response.
20:31 NASAJPL: I believe it’s a remnant from manufacturing
20:31 T512: lost audio too
20:31 rucafiorio: even an very clean room’s atmosphere has some contaminats from the workers inside
20:31 ilovezamir: I want to build the first hut on the Mars
20:31 Shannon_lgrizzly: this team is made of just about every technical field of study you can imagine: Engineering, physics, chemistry, geology, geography, on an on… best advice is to just study jack.
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20:31 WimVO: Are there any rough edges inside the mechanism designed to break apart clumped up sand ?
20:31 nasajpl2: jackspaceuk study science and math in high school. In college there are many choices depending on whether you like science or engineering.
20:31 TechnoTrousers: Thanks NASAJPL. Keep up the great work!
20:32 buckeyballs: james bond barsoom
20:32 nasajpl2: They use vibration to break up clumps. And the covers to the science instruments help sift out larger particles.
20:32 peshir: 8G vibrations (did I hear that right?) would break up sand clumps, I guess…
20:32 RomeRover: It is interesting that the images show the sand as “appearing” wet and holding wheel tread pattern pretty well; unlike what we’d expect to see with dry sand on Earth.
20:32 kaalaa: do you expect to see amino acids or other early building blocks of life?
20:33 NASAJPL: For detailed infomatin on the sampling system, check out the MSL science page: http://msl-scicorner.jpl.nasa.gov/samplingsystem/
20:33 hhall1089: Is the Curiosity going to try to look for the C02 snow that the Pheonix Rover found 2 weeks ago?
20:33 rucafiorio: not many clumps due to extreme dryness
20:33 Joi_the_Artist: Phoenix was a lander, not a rover, and it ceased operation nearly 4 years ago.
20:33 nasajpl2: actually the soill can be quite clumpy.
20:34 Shannon_lgrizzly: I believe that CO2 snow is over the poles hall. Extremely far away
20:34 rockmastermike: has there been any chemcam analysis of the cemeting material in the ‘streambed conglomerate’ seen a few sols ago? the daily press releases on msl website are mostly just pretty pics.😦
20:34 rucafiorio: what would cause clumps? natural mineral adhesion?
20:34 nasajpl2: The CO2 snow was detected by the Mars Reconnaisance Orbiter. The Phoenix lander detected water-ice snow in 2008.
20:35 kaalaa: How far away is Curiosity from Phoenix?
20:35 rngello: o o ,,lo veo es increible . sludos desode PERU.
20:35 NASAJPL: Rockmaster, no analysis has been done yet. stay tuned
20:35 WimVO: They were afraid to drill into the outcrop for fears of it collapsing, they’re hoping to find better suited outcrops closer to mount sharp.
20:35 AC_Koala: Ohhhh echo!
20:35 nasajpl2: They plan to do more analysis of streambed materials further along.
20:35 nasajpl2: AC-Koala you probably have two windows open.
20:35 hhall1089: @Joi_the_Artist I meant lander* sorry, but look at this:http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2012-286 and sorry the ARTICLE was 2 weeks ago.
20:36 Joi_the_Artist: Hall: thanks for the clarification!🙂 Phoenix was one of my favorite missions.
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20:36 chardo137: I seem to remember that electrostatic forces were blamed for previous clumping
20:37 andy39_barcelona: Hi, I’m from Barcelona and I apologize for my low level of English, but may I ask how it will be possible to have enough air to breathe on Mars? Thanks and best regards from Barcelona.
20:37 WimVO: There’s no second rover trying to beat Curiosity to the summit of mount sharp, so braking for science is encouraged.
20:37 ch1le: what is the range of material texturality (particle size) that the scoop is capable of collecting and sent for analyzing?
20:38 Mr2Styx: Please discuss what appears to be altered photos from Mars around the Curiosity area. Before anyone gets upset w/this Q please check out the visual
20:38 weejan: Which telescopes or instruments are receiving the data from Curiosity? how long does it take to transmit an image?
20:38 Joi_the_Artist: The atmosphere on Mars is currently unbreathable. about 1% of earth atmo.
20:38 gta-man: why im always late to these telecons
20:38 rockmastermike: will stay tuned. please publish more analysis along with the lovely pictures. We check the MSL news every day!
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20:39 nasajpl2: gra-man don’t worry, you can always watch the archived video later.
20:39 colinrobinson395: Now so close to the high thermal inertia formation, any pics available?
20:39 T512: eror404😦
20:39 NASAJPL: Weejen, Mars Odyssey and Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter are communicating with Curiosity
20:39 AC_Koala: Just wanted to say thank you. This is so amazing, these “laymens terms” breifings. I feel like the more you include the public, the better chance we have of increasing funding to these kind of things!
20:39 Joi_the_Artist: I think Ustream audio is having trouble. Keeps dropping out here.
20:39 manalokos: I would like to propose an activity for the curiosity team, would it be possible to take some pictures at night, shortly after or sunset, or before sunrise to be able to take a picture of earth?
20:39 andy39_barcelona: could have ice if perforásemos enough on Mars? could covertir oxygen breathing that ice? or impossible this theory?
20:40 WimVO: Follow @NASAJPL and @MarsCuriosity on twitter to get a heads up about the times of upcoming teleconferences.
20:40 nasajpl2: manalokos I’m sure the team will do that; the Spirit rover took a beautiful picture of Earth a few years ago (it’s just a star in the sky).
20:40 weejan: From Odyssey and Orbiter – where are you receiving the data? right to JPL? Thanks for responding! I wish our students were watching right now!
20:41 Ultra_and_Violet-1: i am signed up for email alerts
20:41 rucafiorio: andy finding ice would be a great thing to future crewed missions
20:41 andy39_barcelona: could be ice on Mars? could covertir oxygen breathing that ice? or impossible this theory?
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20:42 WimVO: Due to the rotating nature of both Mars and Earth, JPL will make use of the Deep Space Network, an array of radio antenna’s around the world.
20:42 NASAJPL: Data is sent via the Deep Space Network.
20:42 nasajpl2: From our oribters and from the Phoenix mission we know there is a considerable amount of buried ice on Mars. It is one that that makes it an intriguing destination for human travel.
20:42 Ultra_and_Violet-1: suggest signing up for nasa email alerts, they are fantastic
20:42 ch1le: ah great, getting info about material analyzer instrument.
20:43 hhall1089: @Joi Haha Sorry I’m only 14, if you would like to see our roket here it is: <censored>
20:43 Joi_the_Artist: Hhall: can’t post links in this chat.🙂 Are you on twitter?
20:44 NASAJPL: Links have been enabled😀
20:44 andy39_barcelona: Ice can convert air to breathe?
20:44 gcs3: How do you know the streambed contained water and not some other liquid?
20:44 rucafiorio: andy, ice will provide oxygen yes
20:44 Nordenstam: andy39… I think so.
20:44 hhall1089: Rocket* and thanks JPL🙂🙂 you guys are very nice. Joi the link should be workign now, but just in case: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1518406289/june-sky-h202-rocket
20:45 NASAJPL: gcs3 Orbiter, lander & rover data have shown water ice & hydrated minerals on Mars. Water is the most likely fluid to have made the streambed
20:45 WimVO: If it’s water ice, it’s made out of hydrogen and oxygen, the molecules can be split into separate atoms for breathing.
20:45 ch1le: gcs3: not too many other logical candidates? coke!
20:45 Joi_the_Artist: Hhall: got it! Thanks, will check it out. I love Kickstarter!
20:46 paulweaver1965: When are members of the public going to be able to ask questions directly of the team during a Telecom?
20:46 anime_lover_91: could you possibly see humans inhabiting Mars later on in the future?
20:46 Skychase: Test
20:46 weejan: Exciting… I will be at Goldstone for the NASASocial – love what NASA is doing to reach out to those who are everyday people who care about your efforts!
20:46 gcs3: well, alcohol or other organic, etc. But water is most likely candidate, eh?
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20:46 gta-man: How can i get email alerts of the rover news?
20:46 WimVO: If you have an awesome blog, some newspaper might want to hire you. With press credentials, you can take part paul.
20:47 Joi_the_Artist: Weejan: I’m going to Goldstone, too!!!
20:47 hhall1089: Thanks! A couple of my friends and I are highschoolers from Chicago and we love rockets. I’m looking into Cal. Tech for college, but right now we’re finishing complition on our hydrogyn peroxcide rock
20:47 NASAJPL: You can sign up for email alerts on the JPL site
20:47 NASAJPL: You can also follow the rover on Twitter/@MarsCuriosity
20:47 NASAJPL: and <censored>
20:48 RomeRover: Is wind and temperature monitored closely during action of scooping? Or does it not matter?
20:48 andy39_barcelona: be a big step for expansion into the solar system and make ice capture oxygen to breathe, and be able to store and humans working directly from Mars. When can this happen?
20:48 paulweaver1965: As I only write for a blog NASA refuses to recognise me as a writer and member of the press
20:48 carigis: censored..lol
20:48 gcs3: @romerover they said they monitor the wind guage during scooping/transfer of powders
20:48 turbosixdotnet: ask your question in here paul. the moderators kind of work for nasa.
20:49 NASAJPL: We’re part of NASA’s social media team here at JPL
20:49 weejan: GO TEAM!🙂 Doing social media that rocks…🙂
20:49 Nordenstam: You’re pretty awesome social media team😉
20:49 NASAJPL: Thank, weejan😀
20:49 nasajpl2: Paul, submit your question here. If we can’t answer it, we’ll send it to a scientist or engineer for an answer.
20:50 WimVO: There’s only like 2 people in the phone conference that can answer, the social media team can pass your questions to hundreds of scientists and engineers.
20:50 RomeRover: Would JPL hire Big Bird if Romney fires him fro PBS? He could spearhead educational discussion for kids about Curiosity.
20:50 NASAJPL: Lol
20:50 hhall1089: Yes I agree thanks for enableing the links again @JPL you guys are my heros! :’)
20:50 leeannecampbell: lol!
20:51 andy39_barcelona: What approximate date is given NASA to land humans on Mars?
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20:51 classyslacks: If Mars has a cooled core, and little to no magnetic field, is it possible for it ever to have an atmosphere (similar to Earth’s)
20:51 RomeRover: @Andy: 2030-2050
20:52 hhall1089: One thing what is the link again for the NASA telecon?
20:52 paulweaver1965: We are getting regular updates from the Team in but one thing I would like to hear is how we can more actively contribute to the education of the public about Mars and the associated engineering?
20:52 Nordenstam: <censored>
20:52 ch1le: why cant the EU do something like this…. shamed of my part of the world.
20:53 gcs3: google for ‘MarsOne’ they are trying to send humans in 2023 … (without return trip)
20:53 RafaelBoschini: Brasil Salute NADA \m/
20:53 WimVO: We sent beagle 2 ch1le, but it kinda crashed when trying to land.
20:53 nasajpl2: Paul, we have a very active education office. We do frequent teacher trainings and we have a teacher resource center where they can get free materials from NASA.
20:53 andy39_barcelona: nordenstam, Really? i though later… how do you know?
20:53 Joi_the_Artist: Ch1le: there’s ExoMars coming up!
20:53 carigis: i knew the (il)limonadi had its hand in everything😉
20:53 paulweaver1965: Are these resources available to people outside the USA, I am in the UK?
20:54 cvp173: When curiosity will arrive to the center of Gale crater?
20:54 ch1le: well ofcourse were doing things here and there, but ESA budget is still quite small compared with NASA.
20:54 NASAJPL: Paul, you can find some infomation for teachers here: <censored>
20:54 WimVO: Reaching the summit of the mound is not the goal cvp. So it may never get there if it keeps finding awesome stuff along the way.
20:54 gcs3: @nasa: better type that link with ‘at’ spelled out….
20:55 paulweaver1965: who censored NASA JPL?
20:55 tranzistoren: links are disabled for everyone
20:55 nasajpl2: There are some materials available online for download.
20:55 carigis: need to give admins bility to post urls
20:55 peshir: Must be the chat software. For security.
20:55 Nordenstam: It is the evil ustream bot🙂
20:56 hhall1089: *!
20:56 andy39_barcelona: whenever it is, I want it to be a safe and Good luck
20:56 NASAJPL: Curiosity’s ultimate destination is Mount Sharp. She’ll make plenty of science stops along the way.
20:56 paulweaver1965: I will email Veronica she has been very helpful to me with answers
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20:56 RomeRover: I wonder if there is any fear of Curiosity hitting something like quicksand? Boy that would be an abrupt end. <sigh>
20:56 stubbyfingerlet: Are there sand/wind storms at Mars? Has Curiosity been through one of these events yet?
20:57 ch1le: Any39_barcelona: safety is important, but there will always be risks, we have to acknowledge them and move on!
20:57 rockmastermike: thanks for answering my question. have a great afternoon.
20:57 nasajpl2: paul, you can go to jpl dot nasa dot gov slash education. Click on “teachers”
20:57 Joi_the_Artist: stubby: Mars has lots of dust storms! None over Curiosity yet though
20:57 NASAJPL: Rome, the rover drivers work very carefully to avoid road obstacles
20:57 WimVO: Veronica, Courtney, Stephanie, all of them are very helpful.
20:57 peshir: Mount Sharp? Oh, you mean Aeolis Mons?
20:58 gcs3: @jpl – thanks for restating the link
20:58 tayanken: could we use scoop to turn over small rocks eventually? curious whats beneath
20:58 rnedwich: Does Mars lower gravity affect the possibility to find any fossils of early maritime life?
20:58 paulweaver1965: I always address my emails to Veronica, voice of Spirit and Opportunity – its as if i know her
20:58 carigis: is there a listing anywhere of the names that were sent up with the spacecraft?
20:58 NASAJPL: Peshi, Yes. The mountain is unofficially called Mount Sharp
20:59 HotSpot37: Hope Curiosity can find a red robin on Mars somewhere since it is spring there.
20:59 nasajpl2: carigis unfortunately there is not a list available online of all the names that went up.
20:59 thbs: eu nao entendo nada q esse cara fala!
20:59 carigis: ok thanks
20:59 RomeRover: @HotSpot: I think Curiosity checked in via FourSquare “Eating at Red Robin!” Yummmmmmm
21:00 NASAJPL: Tayanken – no, wouldn’t want to damage the science instruments
21:00 gcs3: on earth, do microbes leave ‘fossils’ such that the same might be detected on mars?
21:00 ch1le: gcs3: they leave detectable traces. As far as I know.
21:00 HotSpot37: There are plenty of red robin chics on my patio during spring ..here on earth. Hope you see some on Mars.
21:01 rucafiorio: gcs, yes, bacteria leave detectable fossils, but not with the intruments on curiosity
21:01 rnedwich: microbes don’t, but early multicellular blooms formed matts like the red algea blooms of today and these have fossils.
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21:01 gcs3: super, thanks for those answers.
21:01 tayanken: arriving late, but how many days above 0 c have we measured
21:01 RomeRover: Shake the sand, look for sea shells.🙂
21:02 nirbhaykundan: lol
21:02 NASAJPL: Thanks everyone for joining us today!
21:02 carigis: thank you
21:02 turbosixdotnet: thanks social media team.
21:02 WimVO: Thank you !
21:02 Nordenstam: thanks, bye! .)
21:02 rnedwich: thank you
21:02 paulweaver1965: why archive the telecon for only 1 week?
21:02 RafaelBoschini: Tks Nada, tks JPL
21:02 weejan: Awesome – thank you!
21:02 Joi_the_Artist: Thanks for being awesome, NASAJPL and nasajpl2!!
21:02 NASAJPL: We’ll post a recording of today’s telecon here on Ustream
21:02 deeliciousplum: Thank you so much!
21:02 anime_lover_91: thank you =)
21:02 enigma51: thanks
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